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Old 12-28-2008, 06:28 PM
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okay...i mentioned this in another thread but i thought the phenomenon deserved it's own thread. Here's the story...my dog anabell gets fed twice a day. She gets Nutro Max beef flavor dry food, and a table spoon mixed in of Nutro Max beef flavor wet food mixed in. About two weeks ago we went to the pound, and they were giving away Nutro max wet food. It was a "high energy" recipe. well, we tried it and shortly after her first meal with the "high energy" mix in, her behavior changed. I hate to compare her to a human but she normally acts like a child with adhd. Well, after the mix in, she acted like a human child with adhd....on medicine!! This behavior lasted for three days (about how long the can lasted)...now here's the weird part....we switched back to the beef flavor wet food and the old behavior came back!! very strange. I wanted to start this thread to see first...if anyone else has experienced this, and second to document this little experiment...well...wish us luck, i'll keep you updated.
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:47 AM
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That's an amazing discovery! I'm trying to stay from high energy diets, because logic tells me if you feed that to a high energy dog, you are going to end up with a dog that's more nuts than before. I'm just so happy that I found dry food that I can feed my Danes and Labs and both are doing great on it.

I stay away from wet food, only add a spoon full to the bowls of dry food to let the nose have some fun too. My experience with wet food has always been runs, farts, and a decline of health. Besides, I couldn't afford to feed all these big dogs with canned foods, geeze...I spend 25 bucks a week on dog food, which makes up 55 lbs and they eat it all. That's a 100 bucks a month.
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:55 PM
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i agree 101%...the wet food is just a mix in...well we already hit a snag in the experiment...we already can't find the can of wet high energy dog food around us....we have a few more stores to check out tomorrow...we did find the dry food however so we'll have to try that...i'll keep you updated
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:35 AM
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Please do!

How about we compare the labels? That'd be interesting.

Crude Protein: 21 %
Crude Fat: 10 %
Crude Fiber: 3.5 %
Moisture: 12 %

This is the dry food I use from Tractor Supply:

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Old 12-30-2008, 10:35 AM
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That's quite interesting. What kind of behaviors changed when you swapped foods?
The high energy food isn't to give them more energy it is to replace everything that a high energy dog expends to keep them nutritionally balanced.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:28 PM
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Food Information:
All products are from Nutro
We've been feeding her:

Nutro Max Beef and Rice Adult Dry food 2 cups
with a mix in of Nutro max Beef and Rice wet food 1 tablespoon
twice a day

here's the info:
wet food:
Crude Protein (minimum) 8.00%

Crude Fat (minimum) 6.50%

Crude Fiber (maximum) 1.00%

Moisture (maximum) 78.00%

Ash (maximum) 3.00%

Linoleic Acid (minimum) 1.00%

Ascorbic Acid (minimum)** 9 mg/kg


dry food:

Crude Protein (minimum)
26.00%

Crude Fat (minimum)
16.00%

Crude Fiber (maximum)
4.00%

Moisture (maximum)
10.00%

Linoleic Acid (minimum)
3.70%

Zinc (minimum)
260 mg/kg

Vitamin E (minimum)
125 IU/kg

Ascorbic Acid (minimum)*
35.0 mg/kg




we noticed a change when instead of the Nutro Max beef and rice wet food mix in, we substituded Nutro Natural Choice High energy wet food

Nutro Natural Choice High energy wet food stats:
Crude Protein (minimum) 10.00%

Crude Fat (minimum) 8.00%

Crude Fiber (maximum) 1.00%

Moisture (maximum) 75.00%

Linoleic Acid (minimum) 1.20%

Zinc (minimum) 80 mg/kg

Ascorbic Acid (minimum)** 17 mg/kg

Glucosamine Hydrochloride (minimum)** 200 mg/kg

Chondroitin Sulfate (minimum)** 170 mg/kg

And the Nutro Natural Choice High Energy dry food stats:
(note: we haven't used this yet with anabell)
Crude Protein (minimum) 30.00%

Crude Fat (minimum) 20.00%

Crude Fiber (maximum) 4.00%

Moisture (maximum) 10.00%

Linoleic Acid (minimum) 4.00%

Magnesium (minimum) 0.10%

Zinc (minimum) 200 mg/kg

Vitamin E (minimum) 200 IU/kg

Ascorbic Acid (minimum)** 60 mg/kg

Alpha-Linolenic Acid (ALA (minimum)** 0.30%

Glucosamine (minimum)** 200 mg/kg

Chondroitin Sulfate (minimum)** 175 mg/kg

all stats taken directly from the Nutro website
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Isn't it amazing how little nutrients are in the wet food compared to the dry food? It's less than half! Poor dogs that only get wet food because their owners think it's better.

I'm having a hard time with my lil Doogle. I can't find dry food that has small enough pebbles for him to eat comfortably. The normal sized dog pebbles are like apples compared to us in size, so he does eat a lot of wet food and it seems to agree with him, except his teeth are getting worse.

Now I wonder what ingredient did the trick with Anabell.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:40 PM
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i really have no idea...well like i said before we couldn't find the wet food mix in just the dry high energy...my wife went out looking today for it so hopefully she found it...and in the mean time as soon as anabell is done with the beef and rice recipe (i'm not letting food go to waste no matter what the behavior) we'll start the switch and see how it goes...wouldn't it be funny if this whole time (see thread "good news" for the full story) that it was a food issue...i'm sure it's not...but it's just leads you to think how little we know about our best friends
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:41 PM
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Natural Ingredients with Added

Vitamins and Minerals
Real Chicken Protein
Shiny Coat, Less Shedding
Easy to Digest, Less Clean-Up
For Dogs Who Prefer A Small Bite Size

how bout that for the doogle??

and no...i don't have any stock or work for Nutro...
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:23 AM
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Update: we switched anabell's mix in to the high energy wet food...and noticed a change. Her behavior has become better, but not to the same extent as it was before. Still it has helped. We are planning on buying and mixing in the high energy dry food starting tomorrow...we'll let you know how it goes!!
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